CHRISTMAS: CHRISTIANS ONLY

[Sergeant Dull]

...Why can't people just accept calling it Christmas? It's roots are in the birth of Christ, it's what it was created for, people celebrated. I mean... Is it that bothering?

A very bad example would be... uh...

Nah that's a very bad example never mind.

[stupid hos is my enemy]

It's roots are in a pagan festival that early Christians took and changed the subject of. Not that there's anything really wrong with that, but it's where the trees and KIPPERS came from.

[Sergeant Dull]

Oh.

Can I change it to Dinkledorry Donut Day?

... >.>

[somebody probably]

I think I'm just gonna celebrate an event around the 15th of January so all the gifts are much cheaper, what with all the sales and all.

[stupid hos is my enemy]

Tactical festives. Clever.

[Sergeant Dull]

Lame VAT cut ftw and ftl. They did it. But it SMASHINGLY sucks.

Funny how people earning over £150,000 get taxed 45% on that income >>

In other news. Man I'm gonna enjoy spending money. Not. It's gonna be hell deciding when to buy.

[somebody probably]

Nov 26, 2008 4:43:38 GMT 10 stupid hos is my enemy said:

Tactical festives. Clever.

I read this as 'testicle festivals'. :\

[CoolCorky]

Christmas is just a name, just like Halloween, Bonfire Night and many more. People of different (or indeed no) religion celebrate them. There's really no point in trying to get the name changed. (I'm aware the article is fake, but there are movements to get it changed. Hey, they don't advertise advent calendars anymore, they advertise 'seasonal chocolate calendars'.)

[Oberstleutnant Insipid]

Nov 26, 2008 6:05:33 GMT 10 CoolCorky said:

Christmas is just a name, just like Halloween, Bonfire Night and many more. People of different (or indeed no) religion celebrate them. There's really no point in trying to get the name changed. (I'm aware the article is fake, but there are movements to get it changed. Hey, they don't advertise advent calendars anymore, they advertise 'seasonal chocolate calendars'.)

Dear friends and family,

Have you noticed how this year’s festive season has been blighted by this
seemingly international war against Christmas, waged, of course, by the the
evil liberal left, atheists, and advocates of political correctness, while
the virtuous right-wing and conservative Christians, spearheaded by the
likes of Bill O'Reilly and those brave men and women at The Sun and The
Daily Mail have fought back gallantly to protect Britain's proud Christian
heritage (as well as that of all of Europe and the USA, which was, of
course, founded explicitly upon the Christian faith, as every good
conservative Republican knows)?

Of course, this battle’s been fought every December for the last few years,
but never quite as tooth and nail as this year it seems. The twist in the
tale, however, is that the War on Christmas doesn’t actually exist at all.
It's an invention of the not-so-virtuous, reactionary religious right to
mobilise outrage, hatred, and general opposition to the liberal left,
atheists, and members of other religious faiths who might enjoy a little bit
representation here and there.

Luton’s ban on Christmas? It doesn’t exist; Luton Council has never banned
Christmas nor is it likely to.

Birmingham’s Winterval? A lie; Birmingham had an urban regeneration project
called Winterval that ran from November 1997 to January 1998 and has never
been repeated since; it had nothing to do with renaming Christmas, and
Christmas was celebrated as usual during the Winterval project.

The Royal Edinburgh Hospital for Sick Children’s ban on a Christmas CD for
mentioning Jesus? Again, it’s never happened this year or any other.

Chester’s Christmas cards that read “Season's Greetings”? Well this is
actually true, though correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Christmas cards
said “Season's Greetings” for decades? I’m fairly sure that particular
phrase predates the modern concept of political correctness.

Moreover, “Happy Holidays” has been considered to be an appropriate
Christmas greeting in North America for at least half a decade. Why is it
only now that the religious right has decided that this is too PC?

This entire War on Christmas is a political smear campaign, and one as
dishonest as the average US presidential election I might add. Do not be
fooled! There is no War on Christmas; it’s a lie spun by the right-wing to
incite hatred of the left, exactly like those accusations of ‘baby-eating’
that the Republicans sling at their Democratic opponents in the USA. It’s an
attempt to polarise certain viewpoints, to turn mere political opponents
into mortal enemies, to create an ‘Us’ vs. ‘Them’ scenario with no middle
ground, and to muddy the already murky waters of British (and indeed,
western) politics with religion.

Unless you fancy Britain becoming a carbon copy of the USA (i.e. if you
don't want an American style socio-political Culture War on your hands) or
if you already live in the USA and want to see the Culture War come to an
end, then I strongly suggest that you don't buy into this nonsense.

This article from the Guardian’s website sheds a bit more light on the issue
(and it’s more objective than my take on it, despite the paper’s reputation
for being ‘liberal’, so give it a read):

www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1967198,00.html

If you can’t find the article with that link, I’ve copied it onto the
attached Word document. Hopefully you won’t need to open that though.

Yours furiously

~ Ben

PS: It would be helpful if you’d send this on to other people you know, so
the message can get around. Whatever your political allegiance or religious
beliefs may be, we do not need this kind enmity and discord at this time of
year, particularly when most of the alleged reasons behind it are pure
fabrications and the real reasons are exactly to incite this kind enmity and
discord.

PPS: For those of you tempted by the argument that Christmas is a Christian
holiday, please consider that it was not always so; what we now call
Christmas began a pagan festival celebrating the ‘rebirth’ of the waning sun
in mid winter, as it was a sign of spring and summer’s return. Indeed, the
giving of gifts and the tradition of togetherness both date back to this
time (long before Jesus was born) when all people had to depend on during
the harsh and brutal winters was each other. This winter solstice festival
was so important to our pagan ancestors that Christians could not altogether
eliminate it, so instead they changed the meaning of it, while changing
almost none of the basic traditions, to ease mass conversion to their own
faith; there is no documented evidence anywhere to suggest that Christ was
born on December 25 (indeed, I believe it’s suspected that he was born in
the spring).

Whatever the case may be, the point I want to make is this; if you want to
celebrate Christmas, do so and don’t let anybody tell you otherwise. I
celebrate Christmas every year and I’m an atheist; to me it’s a time to be
spent with friends and family enjoying myself and not worrying about
anything. But celebrate Christmas for what Christmas means to you, not what
other people are telling you it means.

~ Eon

[Breaker]

tl;dr

[The Pletch]

Read it since I have nothing better to do.
What the fuck?

[iBishyT]

The last paragraph is alright.

[Admiral Mundane]

Nov 26, 2008 3:41:25 GMT 10 Sergeant Dull said:

...Why can't people just accept calling it Christmas? It's roots are in the birth of Christ, it's what it was created for, people celebrated. I mean... Is it that bothering?

A very bad example would be... uh...

Nah that's a very bad example never mind.

How about Easter? What the hell does a rabbit laying chocolate eggs have to do with Jesus coming back to life?

[Rhinoce Breakdancerus]

it’s a lie spun by the right-wing to
incite hatred of the left, exactly like those accusations of ‘baby-eating’
that the Republicans sling at their Democratic opponents in the USA.
~ Eon

I'm a republican (kind of), read The People's Cube, and watch Fox News. At the cost of losing all respect on this site, I say these things because despite being surrounded by republican influences, I've never heard a republican call a democrat "baby eating." "Pinko Commie," yes, "baby eater," never.

[stupid hos is my enemy]

Nov 27, 2008 3:55:44 GMT 10 Rhinoce Breakdancerus said:

it’s a lie spun by the right-wing to
incite hatred of the left, exactly like those accusations of ‘baby-eating’
that the Republicans sling at their Democratic opponents in the USA.
~ Eon

I'm a republican (kind of), read The People's Cube, and watch Fox News. At the cost of losing all respect on this site, I say these things because despite being surrounded by republican influences, I've never heard a republican call a democrat "baby eating." "Pinko Commie," yes, "baby eater," never.

I was about to say, "Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinions", then I read this;

read The People's Cube

and this;

watch Fox News

At the cost of losing all respect on this site

Aye, right oot the windae.