HTMLn00b

[MattGuesting]

A terribly-designed yet nevertheless informative help with HTML.

www.geocities.com/yakmir

[The Pletch]

Not TOO bad, Matt. Just one thing for most people, you should be taught basic HTML for computer class in 6th grade-ish. This covers some more advanced features, so it's worth looking at, but what the public needs is a CGI tut. I'm getting tired of my "put this in your e-mail and send it to this address" paragraph on CS.

[WDot]

[quote author=[Çh€Ë§¥] link=board=showoff&thread=1108618267&start=1#0 date=1108674781]Not TOO bad, Matt. Just one thing for most people, you should be taught basic HTML for computer class in 6th grade-ish. This covers some more advanced features, so it's worth looking at, but what the public needs is a CGI tut. I'm getting tired of my "put this in your e-mail and send it to this address" paragraph on CS.[/quote]

Heh. All my 7th grade computer class did was teach me typing. My Intro to Computers course never touched it. And from the looks of things, the only bit of HTML I'd learn in Web Authoring is Frontpage.

1. Oh yeah, rate page. Ok, well, if you are catering to the complete HTML moron, just giving them some source won't really help. I know HTML is easy, but you need some explanations too. Also, trust me I know, there are people too stupid to go to page source, even if you tell them exactly how to do it.

2. Besides explanations of basic HTML, the current standards XHTML and CSS1 should definitely be covered in depth, because n00bs should rise above the standard of Geocities.

3. Maybe if there was good web design implemented, people would want to learn HTML from you?

4. Approach scripting carefully. Javascript is common, but it'd be a lot of work to show people how to write scripts for different OS's/browsers, being that there seems to be no real standard .

5. Overall, I'd say you should probably put some work into this before you release this to the public . Otherwise, W3Schools and HTMLgoodies shall forever remain my references.

[MattGuesting]

1. Well there is some explanation of what tags do, W, click on the Word document on the first "0" link.
2. I hate to tell you this, but SV isn't XHTML. It takes enough time to get it to valid Transitional without X-ing it as well.
3. Peh This was set up in a few minutes as an online copy of my notes from my Web Design class at a local community centre. (The explanation sheets in the two "0" links also come with it, and I also talk about the tags.) I did consider a redesign, but I can't be bothered at this point.
4. Where did I approach scripting at all?
5. It's not meant to be a replacement for W3Schools, dude, just an introduction

Fair comments all of them, nonetheless.

[WDot]

Guest-MattGuesting said:

1. Well there is some explanation of what tags do, W, click on the Word document on the first "0" link.
2. I hate to tell you this, but SV isn't XHTML. It takes enough time to get it to valid Transitional without X-ing it as well.
3. Peh This was set up in a few minutes as an online copy of my notes from my Web Design class at a local community centre. (The explanation sheets in the two "0" links also come with it, and I also talk about the tags.) I did consider a redesign, but I can't be bothered at this point.
4. Where did I approach scripting at all?
5. It's not meant to be a replacement for W3Schools, dude, just an introduction

Fair comments all of them, nonetheless.

1. Alright, but twould be convenient if they were AT the area where the tags are displayed.
2. I'm not talking aboot XML, I mean XHTML, which is basically HTML with a few rules (such as tags aren't in caps, etc) and CSS. XML would indeed be heck to tutize.
3. What an argument.
4. I'm talking aboot Cheesy's (or whoever's) suggestion on CGI.
5. Yeah, but you could still put some effort.

Ok, let's stop the 1-5 thing.

[D]

[quote author=[Çh€Ë§¥] link=board=showoff&thread=1108618267&start=1#0 date=1108674781]Not TOO bad, Matt. Just one thing for most people, you should be taught basic HTML for computer class in 6th grade-ish. This covers some more advanced features, so it's worth looking at, but what the public needs is a CGI tut. I'm getting tired of my "put this in your e-mail and send it to this address" paragraph on CS.[/quote]
...i dont know how they do things over the next state over, but what wdot said. All the computor classes teach is how to type fast(like moi) and how to use the applications. If you dont test out you waste a year taking computor apps in high school.
Matt, didnt you advertise this before?

[Ashura]

It's pretty good, not as bad as you said it is, but, well, no one likes what they make when they get through.

Ohh, and Cheesy I had to learn it the hard way because I had no computer class in any of my schools that taught html, ahh well.

[Stuart]

Holy hell, this thing still exists? o.o
I visited it... like... um... over a year ago, I think. Found the link in old hoaxer forum topics, where Matt would pester Eco into learning HTML. XD

EDIT: I'm in 9th grade and we only just started learning typing. But that's because the teachers are scared to teach us too much in case we get too smart and start making websites.
Hell, last year in Primary school we weren't allowed to go on the internet. "The internet is a dangerous place. People can be dangerous. Never talk to people on the internet." T_T

[WDot]

Spudnik said:

Holy hell, this thing still exists? o.o
I visited it... like... um... over a year ago, I think. Found the link in old hoaxer forum topics, where Matt would pester Eco into learning HTML. XD

EDIT: I'm in 9th grade and we only just started learning typing. But that's because the teachers are scared to teach us too much in case we get too smart and start making websites.
Hell, last year in Primary school we weren't allowed to go on the internet. "The internet is a dangerous place. People can be dangerous. Never talk to people on the internet." T_T

Heh. Ah, my early years. Anyway, those teachers should be scared. Because not only do I know HTML, I know XHTML/CSS1, and not only that but I can create the same power tables do using DIV tags and HR's! Mwahahahahaha! Sorry.

[Matt_TY]

Yeah, absolute positioning in CSS1 is alright if doing it that way is what floats your boat. I don't need to redesign all of SV's code that way, mind you, far more trouble than I believe it'd be worth in the end. Ditto for checking every tag to make sure it's XHTML, although I made an effort a while ago to make sure the site validates in HTML Transitional.

[WDot]

Matt_TY said:

Yeah, absolute positioning in CSS1 is alright if doing it that way is what floats your boat. I don't need to redesign all of SV's code that way, mind you, far more trouble than I believe it'd be worth in the end. Ditto for checking every tag to make sure it's XHTML, although I made an effort a while ago to make sure the site validates in HTML Transitional.

If you mean using the top/right/left/bottom attributes in CSS2, nah. I still use divs and let the margins do the work.

EDIT: Wait, I lied. I do use divs and margins where I can, but I still have to arrange the divs with the help of said attributes.

[Dguest]

Matt_TY said:

Yeah, absolute positioning in CSS1 is alright if doing it that way is what floats your boat. I don't need to redesign all of SV's code that way, mind you, far more trouble than I believe it'd be worth in the end. Ditto for checking every tag to make sure it's XHTML, although I made an effort a while ago to make sure the site validates in HTML Transitional.

*D's head asplode* You lost me at the absoloute postioning mumbo whatsamacallit.

[Geewoody]

Nice for a quick reference. Considering the only way I make sites is by layout slicing, this is basically all I'll ever use. If this only demonstrated the enormous power of tables a bit more I'd be happy. (border size and such)

[WDot]

By the way, I've discovered a way to get the same power you have with tables with divs! Just nest said divs. Like nesting td's in tables.

Basically, make an outer div that's a container, and then put your each column you want inside with the "float: left" attribute. This'll make them all line up on the same line. Then, right above the first column codewise and right below the bottom, put two "spacer" divs whose only content will be   (nonbreaking space special character) and whose only attribute will be clear: both. This is a hack so that the column'ed divs will appear inside the container (which you can very well make transparent with background-color: transparent;).

Also, if you want to get the Update effect that you have on your home page, make the center column its own container, except don't float everything to the left so that each "update" div appears on its own line.

Yeah. You don't HAVE to use it if you don't want to, but just to show there's a better way than absolute positioning, which can be rather aggravating XP.

[Breaker]

Alright, WDot! Way to bump an old topic! W00T!