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Sept 12, 2009 3:52:32 GMT 10
Post by Sergeant Dull on Sept 12, 2009 3:52:32 GMT 10
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLDDDDDDD
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Sept 12, 2009 5:42:26 GMT 10
Post by iBishyT on Sept 12, 2009 5:42:26 GMT 10
So swearing is offensive, yet photos of dead kittens and puppies are free game. I wonder how Matt feels about this.
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Sept 12, 2009 5:44:58 GMT 10
Post by Fiery on Sept 12, 2009 5:44:58 GMT 10
Well then, Bish... By all means, complain to Matt. If he has a problem with the pictures, he'll remove them.
But they aren't grotesque or explicit in nature, so I'm not going to delete his post.
As for the filterdodging, the filters exist for a reason. Find me Matt's "No dead animals" rule and I'll gladly delete the images.
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Sept 12, 2009 5:50:37 GMT 10
Post by iBishyT on Sept 12, 2009 5:50:37 GMT 10
I somehow don't think photos of dead puppies and kittens are classed as PG-13.
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Sept 12, 2009 5:56:16 GMT 10
Post by Fiery on Sept 12, 2009 5:56:16 GMT 10
And how, exactly, are they not?
I mean, those pictures don't even qualify as violence. The animals sure didn't have their heads hacked off with a chainsaw.
In fact, by the rating system there... Your post that I've removed would've been rated R at the very least.
Now, Bish... As much as I'd love to sit you down on my knee and explain to you that death is a natural part of life and pat you while your tears drip away, revealing acceptance of the facts... That's really not the role I feel like playing today. This is something you're just going to have to get over.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:06:39 GMT 10
Post by The Pletch on Sept 12, 2009 6:06:39 GMT 10
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Sept 12, 2009 6:08:55 GMT 10
Post by stupid hos is my enemy on Sept 12, 2009 6:08:55 GMT 10
Christ on a bike, Bish, it's just a dead animal. Go bawwwwww somewhere else.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:13:15 GMT 10
Post by Naem on Sept 12, 2009 6:13:15 GMT 10
I'm going to blame this on Eco.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:13:58 GMT 10
Post by Sergeant Dull on Sept 12, 2009 6:13:58 GMT 10
K but sure we can say that someone was offended, he could at least remove the picture?
I'm not defending either side, but yknow.
You bawf*gs could at least be courteous to each other :v
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Sept 12, 2009 6:23:19 GMT 10
Post by Sergeant Dull on Sept 12, 2009 6:23:19 GMT 10
BAW NOW WHAT HAVE WE LEARNT?
Don't be offensive (Hahahahah) Be respectful to each other (AHAHAHAH) Negotiate terms with good reason (No chance)
This is SV.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:26:54 GMT 10
Post by Fiery on Sept 12, 2009 6:26:54 GMT 10
I'm not out here to be the mommy of the members of this board. If they find something offensive, it's up to them to negotiate terms with the person who offended them. I will absolutely not mold this forum to make it unoffensive to every single person who comes here. That is not the task I've been given as a moderator. As far as I'm concerned, no rules were broken with Breaker's post, and Bish's unexpected and over-the-top reaction broke language rules and used filterdodges which I have explicitly stated I would remove cases of.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:29:45 GMT 10
Post by Naem on Sept 12, 2009 6:29:45 GMT 10
CAN WE ALL BE HAPPY NOW?!
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Sept 12, 2009 6:33:01 GMT 10
Post by The Pletch on Sept 12, 2009 6:33:01 GMT 10
So living kittens are fine, but swears are offensive? I wonder how Matt feels about this. I expected better from you, SV.
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Sept 12, 2009 6:50:53 GMT 10
Post by iBishyT on Sept 12, 2009 6:50:53 GMT 10
I'm sorry.
I will openly admit that the photos themselves are not that offensive. Well, they're offensive to me because I have pretty strong feelings about animals and when harm comes to them. But in general, they are no more offensive than stuffed animals in a taxidermy (like many have said, it's not like they were maimed and torn from limb to limb). Although I was offended at first (leading to my apparently more offensive filterdodging post), I soon found myself less offended by that and more offended by how everyone else treat the situation with indifference and borderline void emotion.
Sonic Vegemite is quite important to me, and i'm sure some of my closer friends here will understand why. I've been a member here for a very long time and had not ever (until now) encountered something which offended me in such a way. Although i'm aware that there's much more offensive stuff other websites (some of which I have seen), but I personally feel that that alone doesn't justify it being here. This is Sonic Vegemite, not 4chan.
However I did overreact and act in a way that made the situation worse rather than better. I also acted in a very bad manner towards close friends of mine (which believe me, I feel like utter KIPPERS for), and refused to listen to their reasoning in my somewhat hysterical tyrade. Oh, and I filterdodged. And for all that, I apologise. Of course this doesn't change how I feel about this, but to put it simply I acted like a dick.
I would appreciate it if we just left this now and not bring it up again. I won't bring it up again, I won't complain about this ever again, and I will in future try to express myself in a much more dignified manner should I ever feel this way again.
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Sept 13, 2009 14:54:48 GMT 10
Post by Matt_TY on Sept 13, 2009 14:54:48 GMT 10
OK. It's fun I'm back like two days and already it's MATT WILL SORT THIS OUT.
Personally I find the dead animal pictures in poor taste but not actually against the board rules. Mind you, the thread itself seems to be a kinda poor taste competition so if I was inclined to delete anything it would be this entire clusterninja of a thread. As much as I don't like the pictures, Fiery has the right of it, PG-13 means PG-13.
Incidentally, Fiery, I've always thought the MPAA was rather too precious about language: a couple f-bombs to me does not an R make. The filter is there to stop people overusing the words as I'm quite certain many here would do. Still doesn't give Bish an excuse for dodging, or anyone else for that matter, but I'm not inclined to make a callout about it.
So no, I don't think there's any deletion I can do here. However, I do think the images posted are the act of some kind of retard and if anyone takes this as open license to go LOL IT'S DEAD DOGS THE TOPIC then happiness levels will start to plummet.
C'mon guys. I don't want to be RAR I AM BOARD ADMIN THUNDERING FROM THE CLOUDS anymore. As I said last year, I want new!SV to be less netdrama-y and less restrictive as well, but you have to not be tools to make this work. Work with me here.
PS: Tronic are thread winnar kthxbye
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